Maya Jama, host of Glow Up: "Instagram filters warp your mind"

"Pum"! "Bang"!

Who has never imagined being famous

with big sunglasses, having a "vermouth"

in Capri in a bathrobe?

Fuck! It seems that I describe a video clip of C. Tangana.

The fact is that we have all dreamed of being acclaimed at some point

and admired by the masses, something we now have

closer than ever.

Networks have democratized many things,

among them, stupidity and fame, which sometimes correlate, be careful!

What is the real price of being famous in 2021?

What is the difference between a celebrity and an "influencer"?

What happens when you upload a photo to your mobile?

What happens when you go out to dinner or to a party?

How many messages do you receive per day? What is the heads and tails

to earn a living thanks to social networks?

Inside "Gen Playz". "Bang."

How will the world of "influencers" be?

for me to have had myself

what to wear this toerita

of Communion, Dario.

(HUMMS BULL MUSIC)

No, Dario, because today...Okay.

Let's talk about fame.

"I'm gonna live forever".

As Irene Cara would say. Okay.

Do you consider yourself an "influencer"?

Yes. This is how I record for the Treasury.

Is that how you say? There is an epigraph... Sure.

To the effect. I'm in the bullfighters.

Really?

Bullfighters...And others.

And traces. And may contain traces. And others.

Okay. Brilliant.

Well, today we are going to talk about these heroes without capes,

those who entertain you,

well, somewhere between a sardine slap and a sardine slap.

We have prepared, as always, a video for this purpose.

"Social networks have revolutionized the way

to make himself known to the world".

-So, the usual.

Ask us questions. It's the moment.

-And we will answer them.-That's it.

"Making it unnecessary to be handsome, eccentric,

have talent or be the ex of a bullfighter to be famous".

"Andy Warhol said that in the future we would all be world famous

for 15 minutes."

"But what happens when you go from being viral...?"

Holy shit! "Piles"!

"To be famous?"

"Can you make a living from it?"

When I came here, I came with little money.

I was starting on YouTube and there were months that I was doing well

and others that the account was almost zero.

"How many hours do you work?"-Upload 15, 18 videos to TikTok a day

it takes me three hours and then YouTube takes me two hours,

and then an hour and a half.

"How does the life of "influencers" and celebrities change

when his followers soar?"

"How do you deal with the millions of messages you receive?"

"Are social networks a double-edged tool for them?"

"Fame costs, but exactly how much?"

How that final image has broken down.

Like the house of cards, it falls. Sure, sure.

Many worlds.

As always, we have set up a table

to stay "shit" on top, of course.

This is Rizha. She is a singer and an actress.

It would lack the model moment to be able to do...

Like Catrice. Exactly.

How are you?"Ojete Calor". Good.

We are very excited to have you in this new format.

Have you seen? She was a "Playz" veteran.

You brought me already, but without a table, like, just a chair.

"I've already been upgraded to the table."

Have you seen? Little by little. Yes.

How is the public, huh? A little bit. A plastic cup.

No. Clear.

Kapo, Bruno Pol Feliu.

I like to say it myself. The ID is missing.

Man, sure. That's right, dude.

He is our trusted freestyler of our hearts.

I take this opportunity to say publicly

that there is no one that I like better than him

in the world of "freestyle" and that we love you very much from here,

me especially.

Hi. How are you, Kapo?

Very good. Very happy after this introduction

that a little more and includes a hug.

That's right. But I'm very happy to be here.

Holy shit! The last time I came, but it was Christmas.

I still didn't have the feeling... Exactly.

This is real social gathering.This is social gathering.

We are renewed. Today I look like a journalist.

Usually I look like an asshole, but today I look like a journalist.

60 seconds. Don't worry. We haven't started.

Daddy Gavi, what's up? Hi. How are you? How are we?

Okay. Nice to be here.

A well-known "youtuber"

prestige with his ears. I don't know...

What is that about, Dario?

Okay, let Dario answer.

Gavilán is very otaku.

He likes everything related to Japan

and in Japan we already know what they magnify

and what cats want.

So, he's turned into a cat right now.

Special.More cat issue, "Tamagotchi".

Call it what you want, but yeah, something like that.

Bertus, content creator,

of our hearts"performancer"

and mileurista,

and mileurista.Total.

We almost experienced his dismissal live, which made us especially excited.

Hey, it's content and always creating.

Always.

How about there in your booth, Bertus?

Well, look, I shouldn't have painted it blue.

I thought it was nice because since I made videos on YouTube,

I said: "How beautiful the background", but it didn't count

with which I was going to spend a year and a half locked up.

So maybe this color is...

It's driving me a little crazy.

Holy shit! Host!

Okay. Lastly, Victoria Martin.

She is co-creator of the content channel,

Well, "Living postureo".

He is also a screenwriter,

funny and, well, anyway,

You can also see them in "Stretching the gum".

It's not on here, but I'm saying it. Great podcast.

Victoria, how are you? Very good.

I really liked the introductory video.

What did you like the most? They are always soaking.

The "influencers" always have a clean anus.

Have you seen? One thing they can say no,

but they are clean for a while.

Like chickpeas, always in water.

Like chickpeas in water. What does it mean to be an "influencer"?

That's strong! Let's see, for me?

It's that later they cancel me.

I don't care. What does it matter? To me a scoundrel.

-The best definition is that they cancel me later.

-It's being an "influencer". It was worth a dick.-Yes.

A scoundrel. He seems strong to me.

It seems strong to me. Have we started to crack?

Yeah, sure.

Let's see, that's what they said in the video.

It's true that now everyone can be famous

without knowing how to do anything and this seems great to me

because, let's see, many of us are here...

I don't know how to "O" it with a joint either.

I don't understand them, but, damn, I'm telling you too

that should not be given importance.

Do you think that Malala, who has Instagram, by the way,

Was that important to be given? Who is Malala?

Nobel Peace Prize.

A girl who was shot in the head...

My God, I don't know who Malalay is, I do know who Makoke is.

That's how the world goes. Sure.

-That has faded.

I think there's a bit of giving yourself too much importance

possibly from being on the internet.

I think you have to relax a bit, that there is nothing that important.

Rizha, what's the difference between being famous

and be an "influencer"?

The "youtubers" stop to talk to the paparazzi and the famous do not.

Do I understand? They take being stopped in a bar like an interview.

Yeah? Real celebrities have stuff

what to do, companies to take.

So, they go:"I don't have fucking time.

Son, I'm so sorry."

They're more fed up I think.

Equally, it is more difficult for them to cancel.

Not to "influencers" because they see you as a species

demi-human, but at the same time: "Man, how come you don't make 53 videos a day?".

It's true. With the demands.

Sure, but... Do you feel demanded, Dario?

Yeah, that's what it says. A bit famous,

within today's culture, it is Olympus.

Then there are humans, and halfway there,

There is Hercules, who are the "influencers".

Sure. Okay.

The lost sons of Zeus.

When he fucked things. Zeus back in the day was warm.

He hitched, I don't know, a mule

and from there came, well, such.

But that's the way. The "influencer" came out. I like it.

We're sons of Zeus in the end. We look like sons of Brits,

like, from a goat and a british was born... you know?

Well, I wanted to ask you,

For example, Bertus, how did you start gaining followers?

Well, I really don't know.

I still wonder. I say: "Who can follow me?"

I started on Vine.

I started doing stuff on Viney from there on up.

People were arriving. Me neither...

I've come across this a bit like this.

Now I have to be an "influencer". Now I have to professionalize it

because I just got fired.

Now "influencer" forward, you know?

And you, Kapo, how did you start getting followers?

Of course, mine is actually a little different

to the typical because I started to have a physical fame, so to speak,

before networks existed as such.

Of course, here I look more or less jovial,

but I have almost 30 tacos.- Jovial.

-And the truth is that, when I started rapping

and compete in "freestyle" battles,

the physical public, those 5000 people throughout the country

that they did follow the "freestyle"

they got to know me. Then, years later...

Actually, he was a manager

who told me: "You have to do social media, man.

You have to exploit this."

How strong. I was like a microfamous

and then the networks, of course,

I had them the first year and I already had, I don't know,

20 or 30,000 followers, which at that time was outrageous.

I was like, "Holy shit, now I can capitalize on this."

"Let's go", capitalism.Total.

Overall. Total. I will not be the last.

Daddy Gavi,

hey, listen to me.

Why do you think people follow you?

I think starting with the fact that "youtubers",

"influencers" are people

and because I believe that in us they find

a closeness

and a naturalness that maybe they don't find

somewhere else. Do you know what I want to tell you?

When they see me, they will say what the girl in front of Kapo said,

who doesn't seem to know how to do anything.

Actually, I don't know how to do anything, but I think...

-Me neither.

-No. It's normal, you know?

The thing is, maybe we find

a friend they need right now.

At least that's the way I see it.

I tell you, everyone has their own way of expressing themselves,

their way of saying things, but it is true

that I have a way of communicatingthat I do it in such a way

that, when they're looking at me, they say:"Damn, that's my buddy from down here

of a lifetime or the one on the floor across the street".

Maybe that's why people follow us.

Wait, I wanted to say something Kapo.

Before, when you talked about the difference between being famous

and "influencer",

I think it's just what Gavi just said now.

Yes. The "influencer" yields

part of his private life to the public.

On the other hand, the famous only gives up their artistic or professional facet.

Okay. I think that's kind of the point.

that differ.-And the Kardashians?

That they invented all this bullshit about calling the paparazi

and the whole thing.

But after payment. I think that's an illusion.

Sure. It is a very crazy illusion because being an "influencer"

You sell it, but you're not going to be 100% who you really are.

If we saw all the people we follow as they are

from day to day of friends,

you would be quite disappointed with many,

Not because they're motherfuckers, but because they're people, man.

To you, to me, in your house your friends do something

and you go, "Ha ha ha nice." On the internet it does that and it's:

"How could this awesome being do this? How terrible."

Canceled. You understand? It's very clear.

Yeah. Yeah.

It makes no sense, for example, that a gossip magazine,

even "Hello!", which takes a very long time

among us...very famous.

It does make sense for me to make a headline that is:

"Presley opens her house to us",

but it doesn't make sense that it's..."Dario opens his house to us".

That "influencer" opens his house to us.Okay, one more time.

María Pombo appears in "Hola!". It's happening.

Has it happened yet? Yes.

Sure. What does it sell?

There are "influencers" who cross that barrier.

What is the difference between Isabel Presley

and María Pombo? In the end, they are "socialités".

I love that word. There's a 600-year difference.

It is just as lawful for Presley to come out as María Pombo.

What is your mission? What is the exclusive?

It's the same. What's the exclusive?

From Maria Pombo? She went to open the doors of her house

and the birth of his son Martín. Is there anything more important than that?

I don't care about anything else in the world. Haven't you already done it online?

The floor of the house of María Pomboes with heating.

You think I give a shit what happens

in the "procés"? I want to know this.

Sorry. Would you follow yourself online?

Sure. No.

I don't feel like an "influencer".

In the end...But you would follow.

In the end... I have a buddy... I'm a rat.

It's not logical that you've become

on "influencer". That's nice, but in the end...

In the end it is that, you have converted. Do you think so?

I understand that you may have..."Converted". She says it like...

You can have the syndrome that me and colleagues

it can happen to us sometimes what is the syndrome

of Jack on the Titanic

sneaking into places where you might not have

why be because you don't like that much,

but you end up being there. Yeah I do like it.

So you are. How can I be?

if not a bloody brand hires me?

I'm not "little" with this. Let's see, these things...

If I could be an "influencer", come on,

I was aiming for that boat in first class.-Where do you have to sign, right?

Sure. Would you guys follow each other?

It's just me...A question for everyone.

Would you follow each other online?Bertus.

-I think so. Why not? - Sure.

If I don't like myself, who will?

That's the first thing,

but it happens to me a bit like Victoria,

I feel a little...

I don't consider myself an "influencer".

I mean...why is there this stigma

about the word "influencer"?

I don't see it as a stigma. I see it as...

Well, stigma, hear me out, the bookies, et cetera.

I mean, it's a little hard, but... man!

I don't know. I don't see myself as the typical "influencer"

who announces the cupcakes and says: "How good they are.

Give it a "like".

-So...-The cupcakes...

-In the end, I fall for it.

That's what Dario was saying too. Once you get in, it's the scene.

-They gave me a "briefing" of cupcakes.

Have you been passed? No!

Wow!

Wow, idiot!

And you've been about to. It's just that, of course, in the end

everything has a price. You already know what the Argentine film said:

"We already know what you are, now let's negotiate the price".

Because people put money on the table and do certain things.

It makes sense. Do you care about the number of followers?

Regarding brands? Why now brands

They are all linked with these impressions,

this guy...hopefully just the brands.

-More things, of course.

Hopefully just the brands. We entered the depression. OKAY.

-No. Television for example...

Well, I work in television and I've been told:

"Not this person", from executive production,

"because you don't have enough followers,

this one does because it has more."

-The actors happen a lot.-In music the same.

-Yeah.-It's ridiculous, but yeah.

You present a fucking album:

"Yeah man, but you don't have 100,000 followers."

"You didn't do my job for me. I'm sorry.

I don't feel like doing the promo. Do it yourself."

Everything has worked like this since there were networks.

It's super frustrating. Thank you.

Do you think that the same thing that exists in the world of music

and in the world of acting, above all, those two worlds,

Is there much...?

I want to put it in quotes so that it is understood,

but there is a lot of intrusion in that it is easy to access

to a role if you have a large following,

but do you think it always goes hand in hand with something unfair?

or what could it be...? A lot of times it's super fair, man.

-Sure.

Is it fair or super unfair? I'm lost.

Some people have a lot of followers

because he really has an enormous talent,

evidently.-Totally.

-Papi Gavi is a person...-Of course.

-The one that you have to follow on Instagram compulsorily

because every morning your vibe changes,

100% positive energy.

That's what he does. Gavi, please don't cry.

-Man, you're going to make me cry.

Hey Gavi, what happens when you upload a post?

How does your phone change?

Okay, normal. Yes, it's true that I have everything deactivated

generally, not Instagram or anything, but the fact that I have

deactivated until the guasap.

I like to be quiet, but it's true,

Not to change anything, but I'd like to talk

on the subject of being an "influencer" and not,

but what makes me cool with all this, being an "influencer"...

Because I say it proudly. I like to say: "I'm a youtuber"

because I've been doing this for ten years.

I've been doing this since I was 12, since I was little,

because I love it, but what I like

is that it is very satisfying because you are not there or they impose you

someone, but people decide whether to follow you.

Then there is nothing more satisfying

what to say:"I want to follow this person.

I want to see your videos." If people really see us

It's because we're earning it.

In fact, Victoria, do you think people would value the same

Your work without networks?

Of course not.

I think I've managed to dedicate myself to what I like

thanks to social networks and thanks to the Internet.

I owe him everything. It's just that I think there's a difference

what I do is that the "influencers" that...

The term "influencer" that I think is born

through, well, Paris Hilton, which for me

she is the first "influencer" there has been,

and the Kardashians...Jesus Christ too.

Don't forget him.

Indeed. It's just that.

Of course, they are people who have tried, being millionaires,

hiding the maid behind a curtain

so we wouldn't see it, to believe that you can identify with them.

I mean, Paris Hilton cooks you some "fetuccini al forno"

and people who see her think they're her friends,

but you'll never be her.

I think social media has brought millionaires closer together

and they have made us think that we are on the same wavelength.

As much as Natalie Portman makes vegan recipes

in quarantine, you will never be that person.

I think the networks have brought people together in a way

that we have believed a little that we can touch his hair

to Natalie Portman. It's not going to happen. Sure, but there's a difference

between you and Natalie Portman.

Breaking distances. What I'm going to

is that they are the "influencers"

the ones I mean. Yes.

Then there are the people who maybe live off the Internet

because he does things and people just follow him...

Things...really...

-Like the Catalans.-Of course.

-"Making things".

Total. I think the difference

is being obsessed with putting on your good face or not.

Total. I am a rat and I give it.

People are obsessed with being a good person in networks,

all the time like: "We have to put on our best face."

But why?

I'm not a good person.

Do I have to fake it?

You link directly to the term "influencer"

with people who are dedicated to networks, but are dedicated to "lifestyle".

Indeed. I think it's there

since it started as that "lifestyle" bubble,

of Aretha La Galleta, of all these people...

-Aretha the Cookie?-There is a person called

Aretha La Galleta and is not in the Court of The Hague

being judged. How strong.

I mean, fuck, there's a difference

among people who are singers, musicians,

people like Bertus who is one of my favorite "influencers",

who makes cool and fun videos. You, Dario, laugh.

In other words, people who do things. Because we are here

no need to brown it Aretha La Galleta.

You guys are fine. It does things.

Then there are other people promoting shapewear.

Yeah. And curling irons.

Or "Martina's toys". Not forgetting

child exploitation. I think it's great that it's done,

but that's not the same thing.

-Child exploitation?-No!

-It was "out of context".

Okay, I hope they cut this.

Hopefully they'll finish shutting us down.

I'm going to do a "recap" with everything we discussed

well, for example, so you can tell me

what is the "daily" of the "influencer".

Let's see if that exists. You worry about making "stories",

you take care of a publication, when you upload it you wait

a "feedback" in a sense, you do it to nurture people

with what that public demands, you do what comes out of your cuca...

All this in a yes or a no. Look, me when it was just announced

and such,

as I was doing a lot of things,

also this pre-pandemic, mid-tour and fucking,

yes I posted a lot because I had stuff

The kind to post. Right now, which is when I'm

with more people, with everything super good, I think it's the time of my life

in which social networks matter least to me.

I post at 3:00, 4:00, when I remember.

I don't read messages anymore.

I don't read comments anymore. I don't do anything. I dedicate myself

like more to consume.

I wake up and it's TikTok... Today I woke up 30 minutes earlier

than I would have to get up just to watch TikTok and memes.

I'm like, "I'm going to start the day off right." And then I'm like, "That's it."

In your case, Kapo, you have it more professionalized,

so to speak, because you have Twitch,

from Twitch you take videos talking about this specific thing.

So, how do you have that "planning"?

In the end... Of course, I consider myself very little "influencer"

because I don't work my social networks, let's say,

from Instagram, Twitter and more.

I practically don't work it.

I have never taken that as what I want to show about myself.

Actually, on Twitter I'm like... I have an account that if you see it,

It's almost harder for a follower...El Comidista.

From a follower to an "influencer".

I have more opinions about the things that others do than about me.

Sure, the rest is communication work.

In the end, I'm a journalist. I like to create content.

Yes, it is true that Twitch, YouTube, for example,

Yes, I am working. For me it is work.

I see it from a journalistic or entertainment perspective,

but more "light" obviously because the rigor is less.

But in the end I use my networks

to crush

and spread the content that I'm doing

on YouTube and Twitch.

In the end, if you see my nets or they are analyzed by someone who knows,

He'll say, "This is fucking bullshit."

And I thank Instagram who blocked me two years ago

the possibility of seeing things "liked"

because I was possibly one of the people

with a most unfortunate follower-like ratio in history

that Instagram exists.

That's what I'm telling you. Maybe I uploaded a photo

with my colleague Juan, who nobody knows,

taking a cortado, with dark circles, at 8:00 like:

"Starting the day, bro."

You know?

I was pitiful. Now that takes a lot.

Be careful. There's a vibe to this tick.

with that shit that too...Yeah. Total.

It kinda ends like this already and it's like...

-If you can see mucus, better.

Let's see if you can see the mucus in the video that Kil Gore has prepared for us.

Today the Foundation for Help Against Drug Addiction

has launched a new campaign. Remember that heroin in the 80s

and cocaine at the beginning of the new millennium

were the great warhorses

of those who fight against drugs.

-In laboratories like this one, dismantled by the police,

they synthesize a handful of "likes".

Its effects are very fast, but the feeling of euphoria

It lasts very little.

For this reason, experts say, consumers

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That makes it the most addictive drug

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It is also the most harmful to health.

-It can produce confusional episodes

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It also produces cutaneous, cardiovascular,

pulmonary.

In short, it is a substance that, unfortunately,

it's pretty dangerous.

-Another danger is its price. It is five times cheaper

than cocaine. they consume it

increasingly smaller,

but they are not the only consumers.

This happens.

Hey, Bertus, look, about the video a bit,

Do you have... Do you like heroin?

Are you addicted to cell phones?

Are you hooked on mobile as a consumer?

as a creator?

Yes, especially after the pandemic,

all this time.

I think we're super intoxicated from screens.

I, who am teleworking, spend eight hours sitting down

in front of a screen, then if I record, I make some "stories"

or keep editing...

From the time I get up until I go to bed

I am with the mobile in my hand or with a screen

and making moves.

A bit picking up on the topic we were talking about before

of the subject of the posts,

Do you feel free to post something?

or you feel conditioned a bit by your audience

or by "X" editorial lines in the world?

No. I a little what I want,

but yes, going back to before,

that you care if people get your message,

obviously,

if you do something, it's for it to be seen and I like that my work

I have recognition. Well, my job...

I wanted to say that I'm not Steven Spielberg either,

but that people appreciate what I do, right?

I think that's cool.

Daddy.

He's a gangster.

Daddy, do you think about posts a little?

I want to tell you, are posts like this random?

No. It's not for promoting either, but if you get on my Instagram,

You can't take it seriously.

You see a picture of me shaved to zero

totally naked.

You see another photo dressed as a doctor,

of doctor love.

You see another photo... I don't know.

You can see everything. It will have some thought behind it.

I mean, there's a performance for that.

No. I just say: "Hey, I feel like posting

a photo of a fried egg serving as the Betis crest".

I feel like it and I'll upload it, you know?

At the end of the day, what people are looking for is that,

someone natural, someone they can feel with

identified in a certain part.

Say: "Well, I want this guy to be my buddy."

That's why I sometimes do...

For people who don't know, I do dances, I do bows,

but I do it because it's things boys and girls do

in their groups, they kind of have their pussies.

So, I share my cunts.

It's like people end up being all one group.

You called him Daddy and you felt bad.

Don't feel bad. I call him Gavi, Papi, Papi Gavi, Gavilan,

Alejandro, Daddy New Guinea I like it a lot,

Papote.

Potter Alexander too.

It's fabulous.

Hey, one thing, Victoria, are you, for example, afraid

to cancellation

and, with it, loss of your current source of income

also, right?

That public notoriety. Income matters to me.

We care about them, of course. I care a lot about money.

I like it a lot. Me too.

I don't dislike it. It's what I like the most.

I don't know why they hide it.

Don't like money?

Boy, what's wrong with you?

Are you okay? Exactly.

Let's see, yeah. What happens is that it has already happened to me.

It has already happened to me with a little thing about a girl locked in a place.

It happened to me with a joke I made on a show.

This happened to me... So, well, I think that as always happens,

I've been lucky because I kind of have done

like it didn't happen. So, people were insulting me,

but I've moved on and, in the end, it's over.

It has been diluted."Joer", I think you are afraid...

I'm afraid of being misunderstood many times

and that they can think...Because, in the end, it is

take something out of context, and when you take it out of context

a joke or something you can do,

can lead to misinterpretation.

Make it clear that you like money.

Of course. Neither above nor below.

Go ahead. If I have to take it back

sucking an ugly's foot, I'll do it. I don't care. I will crawl

like a slug on the ground until you get where you want.

Don't cancel me.

Rizha, you were also talking about the cancellation.

Are you in a bit of awe at that moment?

I'm really surprised they didn't cancel me,

but the thing is

that I say: "Sure, you don't see me in my real life

the things I do and who I am."

Also the people who follow me have me...

It has a picture of me that I swear I don't know where they got it from,

but they think I'm a super nice person and super...

How cute, how cute. Are you all miserable?

at this table today? I ask.No.

-I'm great.

Me too.

I'm not a bad person, I guess, but they got me

on a super cute pedestal. So it's like, "Okay,

I'm waiting for it to mess up somehow."

It's inevitable. Sure.

As she says. It's all so consumerism,

so fast. I take out a theme after two days:

"Why don't you make new songs?".

They cancel you and if you let it go,

It is forgotten in a week.-I think so.

-It's like: "They're going to cancel someone else

or something more interesting to happen or rumors that Jeffree Star

Kanye West is being fucked." And they forget about everything.

Good. You do well to remember.

You're doing the right thing... In the end it didn't happen.

"For any reason, no...".

There are cancellations...There are cancellations and cancellations.

Of course. I'm talking Twitter nonsense,

not real issues.-Of course.

But one thing is the typical blunder.

-Sure.-Of course.

-But popular trials,

cyber lawsuits,

I mean, I'm so sorry

because many times I am super against

of what the "influencer", famous, has said or done

turn eminence.

-It seems wild to me.-Yes.

-It seems like a savage thing to me.

I think it's savage, not just the cyber trial anymore

when there is a fat shit, otherwise it seems like a savage

to normalize that everyone

Your way of existing in networks is more grounded

on sneering, humiliating and laughing

of what people who don't share your tastes do...

-Yes.-Not to praise, share

and celebrate what people do

that he does find it attractive.-I agree.

-It's a milestone.

Get into the skin of the person who cancels on networks,

many times that is,

many times the people who cancel online

cancels "X" "influencer""X" such, says:

"He has abused 420 little girls."

Holy shit, 420, what numbers come to mind.

So random, huh?

The warlord in Armenia,

has such a coltan mine in Africa.

If it's that "influencer" I would unfollow him too.

The next thing that person

hace es, that is, after two minutes he forgets.

Yeah, yeah.

I don't understand that thing about: that taste for anger,

for such, I do not understand.

It's the same as in high school when you're little,

instead of having friends because they have things in common

is: "-Do you dislike him?". "Yes me too".

And they become colleagues for the sole purpose

to throw shit at someone who are the most...

that you're like: why do you exist? Well the same.

I wanted to ask one thing,

what if they ask you for opinions

Regarding topics that are at that time,

I want to tell you that demand that there is also as an audience

no, now you're talking about the Catalan elections,

You talk to me about the king's move, you talk to me about what I know,

of something like that, of "socialite".

Speak, speak. Exactly, speak.

Yes.

-I think you have to pronounce, honestly, not everything,

not about things you have no idea, that is, it is not necessary

pronounce for the sake of pronouncing.

but I do think that, for me the question is:

"Do you keep quiet about 90% of the things you would like to say

or denounce publicly for fear that brands

stop being interested in your profile?"

-Yes.-Well, not me.

You, Rizha? No, I say yes to the question.

-It's clear.-But there's the "influencer" theme,

I mean, because they know that if they pronounce

they lose campaigns and then of course,

they have this warmth, being there among the grays

all the time and they don't get wet.

-But not only campaigns, it is also a fear of:

There are 20% of my followers who will think differently than me,

They'll be mad at me.-Yes.

Do they ask you, Bertus? That you do that with your head.

No, because just the other day

I was commenting on "stories" about police brutality

and so on, like they told me I had to stay out of it

because it was a profile with many followers.

And I don't want to stay on the sidelines because it's something that touches me.

I think he's gotten used to the audience too,

look, this comb has arrived, it leaves my hair beautiful,

but I won't say what I think

or what my political ideology is.

And I want to say it, I show myself as I am.

So they don't require me to pronounce myself either

because I already pronounce myself.

That there is a range of profiles,

a bit also what we are referencing

to people who don't shut up or people who only dedicate themselves to dancing

and that does not have to pronounce itself on the "procés" either

because he sweats his balls.

Sure, but the problem is when you don't sweat

and you don't speak out out of fear, that's a problem.

Daddy Gavi.

Tell me.

Your name is so funny, forgive me, huh?

No, it's like a Digimon, I like it.

Sparrowhawk,

Have you ever put something on networks,

have you ever said something online that maybe at the minute you said:

"Better not, I'm going to delete it, I'm going to pick up the cable".

Do you know what happens? It's not because I don't like it

or what Kapo says, I totally agree with him,

but it is true that I, for example, about politics

Well, I'm not commenting on anything because I have no fucking idea

and when I have no fucking idea, I'm not going to say it

because it's not that I want to look good with one side or the other,

to talk about politics my uncle is already drunk on Christmas Eve,

do you know?

But in that sense, in my field, let's say, soccer,

well, I've never posted anything

I haven't thought twice before, you know?

Maybe some drunken nonsense

or the other day show my ass live.

Well, I can regret that, but...

Your little licenses.

In "Perreoland" they show their ass.

There is a little less rigor there.

And the rest of the table?

Have you regretted anything?

Any epic cable pick-ups?

Yeah, but no.

I mean yes, but it really pisses me off when I regret something,

I put something of the style that I say:

"Wow, this is going to shock a lot of people."

And then I say: "Well, that shocks him." Like what?

I don't know, I'm against something fascist

or terribly bad, or biphobic or something

that I agree. And I say: "People are going to get angry."

Let them suck it, boludo! Let them get angry.

Why do I want shitty people to follow me?

I get mad at myself for saying: "How my head is so washed up"

of saying: "I can say this or not, or at what time do I have to put it".

What does it matter? Literally, what does it matter? We are all going to die.

-I have never regretted messages of this type,

because I am also very radical with this,

I've even said it many times live: "'Bros', seriously,

if you're from Vox and what I'm saying bothers you,

Go away, please", you know? And I don't care.

-Even if it doesn't bother you.

-Yes, even if you're paying me, I don't care,

Stop investing in me because you won't...

if we meet in a barno I think we'll end up dancing,

Yeah, I don't know, anything can happen.

But what I do regret sometimes is being exactly...

that is, the person who insults me on networks,

be me sometimes.

That is, I am the one who gets horny watching...

look, for example, today a writer of this program

he uploaded an article that has a rather controversial tone

about "youtubers" and content creators

and I've seen several of my colleagues who have retweeted

and said things about that article.

And to me, at the first moment of reading,

It's super well written, it made me want to...

but then I said: it doesn't matter, man, I mean...

You didn't like some things that are said, you understand others

don't be like: "Everybody 'hate' this."

You know? And I haven't tweeted anything, have I?

But the same other times I do tweet,

and then I think: "This person is sharing your opinion

in a medium that gives voice to your work, your profession,

and if I don't like it what I have to do is keep walking.

Don't go there to mash."

Another thing is that Abascalque is a guy

whom I'm paying a fucking salary to,

Here is another topic.

I understand, and for example, speaking of these things,

what you get is a little bit of adrenaline.

That is, people

that takes a dissident position

at the end you say:"I'm going to answer this"

and you have a "feedback", that dopamine that is generated,

What do you think? It's that dopamine is generated.

Maybe you're not looking for it,

but when you meet all that what?

How do you have the "body"?

Me? Yeah.

It usually happens to me more, many people write to me and say:

"I don't like this last joke you made, don't do it again."

This has been told to me,

Don't make that joke again, I don't find it funny.

It's like nothing, Mari Carmen García, thank you very much,

I swear to God I won't do it again.

I think these people,

if you want me not to do this joke again,

you have to pay me the same

that they are paying me for this section.

If you want me to shut up, you have to give me something in return.

I find it very strong the people who venture to tell you:

"Hey, I don't want you to show up

on this show because I don't like you."

And these people think you're going to fuck and leave.

Oh, so I'm leaving the show.

I'm never going to do anything again.

That kind of thing does happen to me,

More than being told, "Hey, don't take a position on this."

I don't want you to do this anymore.

Because I like you, but what you said is not funny.

Then I want you to stop doing it again.

And what do you do? "Lol"?

Obviously, I'm also telling you, it's absurd.

But it is true that fucking, which is what we talked about before,

how people see you all the time and in different places

and you are all the time present for the people who follow you,

in the end he thinks there's something, there's a real relationship, so,

it's weird.

I mean that there is a much closer relationship with your followers

than the one that Carlos Bardem can have when you see him in the movies,

with people who are watching a movie.

You're there.

-But that relationship,

that to me, lately I'm thinking a lot about this,

the relationship you have with your followers, right?

There's a quote from Jules

in the second "Euphoria" special of the series,

what does she say, she talks about a relationship that starts on the internet

with another person and says:

"Reality is always disappointing."

And that's a bit of a problem with the kind of relationships we have

I create through social networks

with as many followers as with other people

with whom you do not have direct contact,

a face to face, a hearing, a seeing, a touching.

That you really build new relationships

that we're not kind of educated at all,

well, maybe the kids who are ten years younger than me do,

but we are not very prepared

as to lower them to land.

And when you bring them down to earth it's a host.

But for example you were saying now

you do have an apprenticeship, I wanted to ask you

if really under construction of the "hates",

I want to tell you, with all that world,

For example, Bertus, I don't know if you...

you're learning something from all this.

I have learned to manage, above all,

in the end it does matter

what you are speaking, saying or communicating,

talking about the relationships you create with people,

I think this is not only seen in "influencers",

people who are big fans of Beyoncé also endow her and see her as such

and maybe Beyoncé gets up and pushes her mom and knocks her over

and says: "Today I don't want to, today I'm angry, I don't know what."

Mom, no lentils.

Lentils again? We ate yesterday.

Have you learned anything from all this?

From what exactly? From the "hate" world.

From the world "influencer" "hate",

that it has never deferred.

Yeah, well, it's also true that some of the comedy I do

that I share with Bertuso with other content creators

that sometimes we get involved, well, we get involved,

we make comedy with the content that other "influencers" do...

Yes, it's true, I've reviewed myself a lot.

because in this last stage I already realized

that some behaviors, some jokes

what I've done in the past were a bit bullying,

I mean, it's totally real.

So checking things I've done before

it's something I wouldn't do again of course and would focus on it,

I'm looking at it differently

because when some people told me:

"This thing you've done seems to generate hate", I don't know what

and at that moment I said:"What nonsense", but of course,

maybe yes, Dulceidano because it's intimate,

because he saw my series and now if you're on my side I don't mess with you anymore,

but if any user sees my "stories"

Obviously you can feel bad.

That's when I started to turn my content around a bit.

because I think you learn in the end

and there are times when I've screwed up a lot of times,

but you don't have to give it that much importance either, it's so ephemeral,

what does it matter?

I don't represent all the content I make either,

There are times when I'll say bullshit and other times when I'll be more accurate.

And if the times I say bullshit are the most, then I'm very sorry

from the moment I was begotten.

Daddy Gavi, we are going to say goodbye to you and to Bertus too,

Bertus, now you are fired,

but completely.

Well, I hope only from here.

Damn, we have been left with a lot of questions, Bertus,

but apart from all this you work

in an agency.

You call me later.

Then you call me to see if I tell you.

Let it also be clear

that not everyone can live on this,

everyone who is an "influencer" necessarily lives on...

of this move, right?

Daddy Gavi,

hey.

The look is the look of the tiger.

-I have the screen here. Ah, ok, ok.

Nothing, son, it's been a pleasure having you

that we will follow your nudes and all these things that you do,

"Otakus", and it's good that we send you a big kiss, sweetheart.

Another one for you and for you and that everything goes great.

Thank you for that wish, that love unites us, Bertus.

Bye. A kiss. A little kiss, sweetheart.

And let's see what Gray Trash has in store for us, shall we?

Let's see, yeah yeah. That's right, Gray Trash.

That's what it's time to do now, let's go with the video.

María Macaroz.

Welcome to this talk show.

Nothing just wanted you...

First make an observation, I did not know you,

I knew you existed and such, I had heard your name,

but I don't really know, I don't even know what you do yet.

I've been looking at your Instagram and it reminds me

to those bars

as well as castizosin which the owner

post photos of him with celebrities from the first edition of "OT",

Madrid soccer players type Arbeloa and such,

and who uses them as a claim to sell croquettes.

So it kinda reminded me of that,

but you don't think you sell...

croquettes, right? Which is like fashion or...

It's very good, I like the clothes, it's just that you can't eat.

Arevalo, huh?

Your go-to comedian, Dario, for sure.

Yeah, yeah.

How horrible, how horrible.

The era of "like" in youth,

for that we have to surround ourselves with it,

we have Juanma AK,Virtual Boy, on Zoom

how are you, king?

Very good.

It's special that you come like this,

I love that you attend the program like this.

I have to tell you. Yeah, it was very on topic.

Very on topic, overall.

Hey, I'll start with you.

wondering yourself, how much time do you spend on the networks a day?

Well, I'm addicted, but very, very addicted.

If I'm awake,

Maybe 22 hours a day,

Well, when I'm 21, I take it with my mobile, especially on social networks,

because I'm super addicted."lol".

Well, and also on the other hand we have Carmen Gómez

He's in college. How are you?

Hi, good.

Hey, what's your relationship with social media?

They really are a bit of a love-hate thing.

I think that is what best defines it.

Because I spend a lot of time on social media on a daily basis,

like I think most young people,

being honest,

but there are times when I also feel bad because...

I could be doing things and being more productive

and yet I'm wasting time

and well, I may be having a good time, but in the end

I haven't done anything, so, love-hate.

Virtual, what is your reaction

versus "likes" or interactions?

Do you like them? Do you want to have? Are you looking for them?

Sorry. Well, it is a validation,

is a continuous validation. I believe that our generation

which is based on network validation

It's something you need...

I also try not to look at him so I don't...

I generate content regarding my artistic profession and that

I try not to look at it, but oh well.

Okay, but okay.

But it happens. I liked that.

Carmen,

Do you think social networks condition you?

when it comes to socializing in real life?

Look, I just wanted to make a bridge here

with what they said before,

that the number of followers influences celebrities, since brands

that they are and all that influence,

but I think young people too,

in what you have said exactly, in the way of relating to each other

because I've talked about it with more people and whether we like it or not,

I'm not going to be a hypocrite, an account that has 1000 followers,

from a kid your age, well, you're going to want

get a little closer or be friends

because you think it's going to be cooler.

We believe that...

Inés, don't make that face.

Carmen, I am surprised with this dystopia "Black Mirrera"

that we are living, perhaps it is that I am very old.

No, listen to me, Inés, it's also true that there are levels.

I guess, I guess.

I try not to give it much importance,

but whether we like it or not...No, it's flashy.

Seeing a kid your age who has 1000 followers

with maybe another person who can have 20 followers,

well, it catches your attention, from there

for you to think you can be a better person

or that you might like him much better. Sure.

Now each one.

You are the judgment generation, darling,

I know you have sensitivity and in that sense,

but it does condition you too, Virtual?

Do you think it conditions you? A lot.

A lot too?

Yes, but a lot, and also in the world of fashion,

where I move,

but a lot.

They have even said to me at a party:

"Oh, I really like what you do,

but I'm not going to take a picture with you,

I don't want to be linked together because you have few followers."

Bitch, really?

Wow. Yeah, yeah.

-It is so.

This sounds pretty strong to me, guys.

This is serious, huh?

It's involution. Emergency call.

Now, finally, only, in one line I wanted you to tell me

if you could live without social media,

yes or no?

It would be complicated because above all we understand now

the world a little more

that you are in daily contact with your friends, your family,

with the people who follow you, so how to remove that like this,

suddenly,

I think it would be complicated,

maybe it could be possible.

My grandparents, for example, lived without social networks,

but for me it would be complicated.

Virtual?

For me impossible, that is,

without receiving the validation, without being able to upload the things that I do

to receive validation, is that...

That's why we have so many mental problems

because we need continuous validation from people.

Well, good that they recognized that sense,

it's good that they're located, but come on.

Well, you've said it bluntly.

Look, good not to lie too, Juanma.

Sure. Let there be no self-deception.

Hey, kids, I have to leave you there studying, "virtual diving",

and all these things because we have to end here

our final round with the table,

Thank you very much for being with us this afternoon.

Thanks to you.-Goodbye.

Bye, sweetheart.Bye, guys.

That's strong, isn't it?

Scary, isn't it?-I love him, I'm going to follow him now.

But it has left me a little dry,

I have to tell you.

Not me because I see it first hand constantly,

so it's like: "sure".

I was waiting for you to say so to see your reaction.

There is a generational gap that is tiny,

but that has been noticed there.

But don't you need that validation?

-Yes, validation yes. All this yes.

Validation yes, but I don't hang out with you

for losing followers.

That's scary, yeah.

-That it be part of the person, not the character or the content.

-Cross borders.-Of course.

It's just that it chills me a little

because I was talking about those two realities.

Virtual and personal reality, right?

Of the tangible.

But that therein that speech is together.

-Yeah, it's faded so much. I'm freaking out, huh?

Because it's like that automatically,

but not just people who are intentionally "influencers".

For example, a "random" TikTok girl

I'm going to upload a video of "X" cream and I'll upload part two tomorrow

and the girl goes viral, she has a million

and have a bunch of comments like:

"What a scammer, where's part two?"

And the girl, I remember I saw it, uploaded a video saying:

"I work at the fucking hospital,

we're on all the COVID shit, what's up?"

And that behavior, that attempt to dehumanize the person

is unique and harshly purebecause it gets a million "likes"

on a fucking TikTok, are you sick in the head, bro?

-But they weren't talking about a million likes.

They were talking about the difference between having 425 followers

and 1022.

On Instagram, yes, yes.

I don't understand what the guys have said,

what I understand and to try to transfer it

both us, except you,

that we are more than one era

still neological.

Old men, say it. You don't.

Not you, you are the flower of life.

And for also understanding the people who are watching us

that is also from our farm,

I think she was more attractive in the end

the most popular people in class,

other things that you end up taking,

but the first glance was more showy.

It is also that the differences are now even more palpable,

because they are also quantifiable,

I mean you're also seeing it,

clear, with figures,

which I think is horrible for their mental health.

Let's do, guys, one final round.

a bit like that with your messages that you want to send

or if you want to reflect on whether this is going to rock,

it's a bubble, anything you can think of

Well, feel free to say so, minute and a half.

Rizha.

No, why do I start, hit him.

Come on, okay, Kapo, man, yeah.

I threw it at you.

That you really like lingüiling.

Yeah, since I don't speak.

Basically I think we have to demystify a bit

the issue of "likes", followers and such,

and start to really give value to the content

what people do, one kind or another,

I mean, it doesn't mean you have to be Albert Einstien

making a move that you freak out to have good content,

that is, Papi Gavi uploads videos singing with a speaker in the bathroom of his house

a song by Chayanne,

and it makes me smile at 9:30,

and I value it, just as I obviously value

the content you make superpolitical,

or super content. I don't do that.

But with a legal background, for example,

because you have the ability to do it.

Look and see.

And it's something I have no idea, but I learn.

Etc, right?

Or the music of one or what the other does,

but what you have to value is the content.

Then now...not the mainland.

Yeah, sure, not the antics.

-I somewhat agree with everything he has said.

I think you also have to,

I would really stay

by giving ourselves a little less importance,

I think the importance given to people is outrageous

and the importance we give ourselves, including myself.

It's just that what we do isn't that important,

I mean, it's entertainment, people have a good time and bye,

You don't matter at all, you're a little ant,

your boyfriend or your mother will care about you

and the people who love you,

but enough of that absolute importance.

Because I see that many "influencers",

and I don't say it for such,

is that they are having a bad time, that really

For your mental health, this is a strong gap.

The other day I saw Marta Pombo, who has me blocked,

but I see it from my fake accounts

to Marta Pombo,

and I saw her crying, having a terrible time,

because obviously the networks, these people,

it's worth it, they go to "Misusita" and they're covered,

There's no need to cry about it either, but they have a hard time.

Rizha.

I would take the most important part of this,

that we must stop dehumanizing,

He is not going to be a pristine person in terms of behavior

just because I have followers,

and what he says, if you don't like something, my son, that's it,

get on with your life,

is "detrimental", I don't know how it exists in Spanish,

for you, for everyone who has to read it.

"Detrimental". Yeah, like, it hurts you.

It works against you.

To the detriment.

I don't know, idiot, I'm Argentina, I speak badly.

You're brutal.

So that, a lot of people are too focused,

because of the importance given to:"It's because if I don't comment

this that has been put by one who lives in the ass

that goes against what I think that I don't even know why he thinks so,

neither the context nor anything,

I'm dying."

Well no, son, have a Cola Cao, a Nesquik, go see Boing

For a while, relax, you're 15 years old, calm down,

Go study.

Come on, come on. I'm going fast.

People, there is a phrase that has been on the Internet for a long time,

a motto, I don't know exactly what the origin is,

but basically comes to say:

"'Don't make stupid people famous'",

okay?

It's that simple.

The power of "influencers", of content creators,

the one of the "youtubers",

that of any person who uploads their pods to the networks,

in the end we have ourselves,

we can decide who does and who doesn't.

And I'm not telling you through thread cancellations and such, that also,

but simply, going to one side or going to another.

Because we are a mass, but the mass can also choose things.

So that, don't do that to peña because she's a famous asshole, please.

Please. Follow me on all my networks.

The secret is in the dough,

next program, alcoholismo let's see.

Follow us on our social networks,

This is serious.

YouTube.

Vote my body.

Mypace,

MetroFLOG, and all these, you already know what they are.

And on Twitter we already have three followers.

Okay.

"Make Playz great again!"

I don't know.

Genplayz@rtve.esfor all your complaints.

We read them to ourselves, we throw them in the trash.

"Arrivederci".